ATTENTION:

2005-01-23 [drakkar]: well instead of taking people blood couldnt they just take iron vitamins it should have the same effect right?

2005-01-23 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: When did you see iron vitamins back when vampires originated? ((a few thousand years ago in Egypt)) Afterwards evolution made what it had to so that the species survives. Anything else?

2005-01-23 [drakkar]: well so your saying that they evolved to the point of where the vitamins didnt work or they didnt need them?

2005-01-23 [Spanakopida]: homanz. Total debating.

2005-01-23 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: No. I mean that there WERE NO VITAMINS IN FORM OF MEDICINE BACK THEN! So they got their iron and other stuff by drinking blood. And they evloved in a way that they NEED the blood to stay alive- it's like humans and food. You can get everything you need by being hoocked up to a system, now can't you?

2005-01-23 [drakkar]: i suppose not in theory but doctors do pretty well at trying

2005-01-23 [Spanakopida]: So your vampires don't shrivel up in sunlight, and turn into bats, jino?

2005-01-23 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Ah... See? I rest my case.

2005-01-24 [Falx]: Um... sorry to interrupt the vampire debate, but I was wondering who created this wiki? I'd like to make a link to it from my wiki Common Sense if it is all right... I'd be putting in the the Wikis of Reason Section

2005-01-24 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Don't ask me- I'm just a member. And I'm saying goodnight to all of you. it's 2:18am and I have to be in school at 11:00 am. So... toodles!

2005-01-24 [Deirdre O'Kelly]: I believe the creator was [cuntstitches].

2005-01-24 [Falx]: Ok. Thank you!

2005-01-24 [cuntstitches]: Yes. It was me. I'm still here. I just tidy up the place now and again, but only comment if the conversation is particularly interesting.

2005-01-24 [Falx]: So, is it cool if I link you in the wikis of sense and good, sound reasoning section of Common Sense?

2005-01-24 [cuntstitches]: Of course. I'm in turn going to link you in the supported wikis, if you don't mind.

2005-01-24 [Falx]: Of course I don't mind! And thank you very much!

2005-01-24 [cuntstitches]: Certainly, doll. Anything to help stop ignorance.

2005-01-24 [drakkar]: O.o...here e go

2005-01-24 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Hm... So finally someone around who appreciates common sense as well as madness... or even more... Hm... Nice.

2005-01-24 [Avoral]: Madness is for wanks. Common sense is fun!

2005-01-25 [drakkar]: like a balance of yin and yang madness and sensibility must be eqaul in power

2005-01-25 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: They are. After all one follows the other.

2005-01-25 [Avoral]: Common sense breeds madness? I don't know, I tend to treat madness with common sense.

2005-01-25 [SeraphicDeviltry]: afterall what is madness?

2005-01-25 [Avoral]: Mental malfunctioning.

2005-01-25 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Who is to say what is madness and what not? Who is to say how something should function, and how not? You can hammer a nail with the backside of an axe and still it fits its purpose. Does that make in madness to use an axe?

2005-01-25 [Keii]: o.O I take a break from studying and come online to let my brain rest... and I come into this *collapses*

2005-01-25 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Sorry! I'm just in a more philosophical mood lately. But since there's no one visiting my wiki right now, which WAS intended to be a twisted version of a modern, insane yet intelligent philosophic society, I try to find someone to have an interesting conversation with.

2005-01-25 [Keii]: *blank look* Well at the moment, that ain't going to be me. >.< The most intelligent thing that anyone will hear from me tonight, will probably be 'huh'?

2005-01-25 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: As long as it's not:"Cheese!" It's bearable.

2005-01-25 [Keii]: Nah, I don't like cheese, so you're safe. ;)

2005-01-25 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Yay.

2005-01-25 [drakkar]: I HAVE IT *grins the ultimate philisophical statement.........................................................moo

2005-01-25 [Falx]: Woah... that was just.... deep, man. I mean... it's like... woah. Sorry. I'm having a Kaneau moment.

2005-01-25 [drakkar]: das ok it's just such a deep statement it even takes me by surprise sometimes

2005-01-26 [SeraphicDeviltry]: wow, that was really deep.. [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE] waht's your wiki??

2005-01-26 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I... really don't get the deepness within it. Must be too tired (not to) to think.

2005-01-26 [drakkar]: well if your to tired to (or not to) think you should have a nap m'kay

2005-01-26 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: My wiki is called ChildreN OF ChaoS. Oh and... My other one's called Jino's poetry corneR.

2005-01-29 [Avoral]: Heh. I might be dipping into the wrong bowl here, but maybe someone's got a chance. Gods of America

2005-01-29 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Hm... I'l have to find time and check that essay out.

2005-01-30 [Grey Eyes]: ....essay? o____o;;;

2005-01-30 [Avoral]: Yes. ^_^

2005-01-30 [Grey Eyes]: *is officially frightened of essays* I just had to write twenty essays all about the same thing without making them sound like they're about the same thing....I don't like them v.v

2005-01-30 [Delladreing]: that must have been a bit of a bitch to say the least

2005-01-30 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: What were they about?

2005-01-31 [Bye Kiddies]: Okay... I am officially confused, are you putting down wanna-be goths or goths in general. If your gunna make a wiki about it, make it a little more clear please.

2005-01-31 [Falx]: It's putting down wannabes.

2005-01-31 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: It's putting down wannabies. Some of the members (most actually) are REAL goths. And some just like goths in general and DISLIKE posers.

2005-01-31 [Avoral]: I'M putting down Goths in general, High. Conformity, Inc. Post your feelings. Be smitten.

2005-01-31 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: What do you have against Goths, [Avoral]?

2005-01-31 [cuntstitches]: Actually, most of the members are not goth.

2005-01-31 [Avoral]: Ooh, the elusive [cuntstitches]. A pleasure to see your voice again.

2005-01-31 [Avoral]: Read the mission statement, [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]. If you can translate it, you're meant to know.

2005-02-02 [cuntstitches]: It always is, doll. :)

2005-02-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I did translate it. I just missaid what I wanted to. ((did I REALLY write MOST are goth? I wanted to say something in the lines of many or something like that... I got confused. SORRY!))

2005-02-02 [drakkar]: maybe we should drop it before another WWIII starts XD

2005-02-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I've started too many wars with too many ignorant idiots around me. III is such a small number...

2005-02-02 [drakkar]: i see

2005-02-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Sorry. But It's true. One of my last "battles" can be seen at Religious nuts. It's with [white_devil].

2005-02-02 [drakkar]: well this should be intresting

2005-02-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Probably not.

2005-02-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: What I saw had visited my house. : [kissingbirds]

2005-02-02 [cuntstitches]: Are you calling me an ignorant idiot? That's what it comes off as.

2005-02-02 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I did no such thing. I said that there's been so many wars described as WW that it wouldn't be my III-rd. That's all. But then again I see no reason to fight with you, [cuntstitches]. Peace.

2005-02-03 [SeraphicDeviltry]: [WakingDeath]

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Hm... why do all those "goth" thinghs add numbers to their nicknames?

2005-02-03 [SeraphicDeviltry]: strange isn't it...

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Yes. It makes no sence. I've even seen entire nicks, composed only of many many numbers.  Oh and there's always [:.]. I've heard that's a nice kid. but the nick is... weird.

2005-02-03 [Lost in Illusions]: I have no idea... I find no point in numbers, thats' why I always try to be original when thinking of names so I dont have to fill them up with "12345" or "666" I guess, since Christianity teaches that "666" is the sign of the beast and is "evil", little 'goth' punkies think they'll be "cool" and "evil" if they type in those three numbers in their names... ~sigh~ it's pathetic.

2005-02-03 [SeraphicDeviltry]: indeed it is... they think it will make them look "gother".. what i don't get is random numbers. it's like they're a part of a series. it's almost like i expect them to say " i am # something something of the something goth series". no individuality.

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: It really is. ::shrugs:: Some little people are... stupid.

2005-02-03 [Lost in Illusions]: hehehehehe... like I said, I strive to think of original names, devoid of numbers, for just that reason. That's another point about goths. They all say "ooooh, Im nonconformist, Im going against society and doing everything that they say is wroooong" All of them say that. Goths are prolly the biggest group of "individualists" Ive ever seen. It's rather pathetic that they think they have their "own" idea and really, it's just like every other "nonconformist rebel" out there.

2005-02-03 [dragonflye]: another thing is as that they all strive to be different, creating their own kind of "conformity" making their so called "conformists" the minority.

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Actually most goths I know really ARE original and individualistic. ... Except for the ones who pose to be goth. I can actually hardly notice who I'm talking to there- with their HiM T-shirts, and same clothes and hairstyle... Jeez! That's why I entered this wiki the first time. to get rid of emo goth-wannabes.

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Ah, now THIS is a nice discussion to see on here. I was beginning to lose faith. *Nods* And here, you are talking about the meaning of CI.

2005-02-03 [SeraphicDeviltry]: nothing can make you different. everybody is human afterall. a person can't have such a big difference. if they did, they would be rejected by society. and all the little idiots saying that they're "weird", "mad" etc don't really know the meanings of the words. nothing is weird just like nothing is normal. i would worship anyone who would give me a satisfactory definition of those words. also being mad is not a pleasant thing. you get locked up in an asylum and people lose respect for you. it's not really "like cool" as these people think it is....

2005-02-03 [Lost in Illusions]: that's what Im talking about... the poseurs. Sure, actual goths are different, unique, individual. I think I am nonconformist... I dont try to be anything different. I just do what i want to do, and that just happens to be different from society. Nonconformity, to me, is doing what you want, how you want, and when you want, not worrying about whether society says it's wrong or right, but doing it because you want to do it. ~sighs~ These wannabe's that think they're nonconformist because they're "evil" and "rebels" annoy me.

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: How about being eccentric?   Oh and... Being "normal" means to comply with what the majority of society find is proper as behaviour, lifestyle, level and so on.     But yeah. I'm sick of little "Look at me, I have no friends because they're scared of me" punks, who hang out in groups with the soul purpose of getting drunk. They see lonelyness, I see a group of friends, trying to make themselves look interesting.

2005-02-03 [drakkar]: the problem is people trying to be diffrent you should be diffrent to the point of people realizing hey he is not like you iand me but to be as provactive as to claim yourself to be darkness or something like that is just dumb

2005-02-03 [Lost in Illusions]: I agree, Jino... it's like the goths on South Park. That's a funny spoof... "Im nonconformist, so Im going to stay here with these nonconformists." "oh yeah, well, Im so nonconformist, that Im going to conform to society just to nonconform to nonconformity"

2005-02-03 [drakkar]: XD i loved that one

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: FREEDOM (which in your case, Oblivion, borders Anarchy- no, I don't mind) is what we all strive for, isn't it? ::bows:: I bow to you, [Lost in Illusions] for finally providing a decent comment about the essence of being "different".

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: EXACTLY. People glorify insanity way too much. They think that all it is is thinking differently, independently, or whatever. They don't realize that it's actually a crippling mental thing that almost destroys rational thought whatsoever. I especially hate the ones who claim they're "schizophrenic." To actually witness someone with a serious schizophreniform disorder is actually a deeply terrifying thing, the kind that makes you question what it has to be like and all that. It's almost beyond comprehension. And yeah, they go so far as to claim they're "outcast" from "society." What society? The whiny Goths gathered in "antisocial" social circles?

2005-02-03 [Lost in Illusions]: ~grins all big-like~ Wow.. Im smart... and being recognized for it... maybe [Avoral]'s right... maybe I SHOULD major in Philosophy... he thought to himself, not realizing that everyone was watching him type... grrr People claiming to have a psychological disorder prolly have a disorder, but it sure isnt the one they claim to have. Its prolly something more along the lines of ... pathological liar? Hehe. As for "outcasts"... I'll show you outcast. I dress "normal" 90% of the time in class, and I get talked to more when I dress fashionably/"alternatively"... now that's outcast

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: HAHAHA!!! Yeah... Like the earlyer comment only paraphrased: I'm so antisocial, I'm gonna hang out with you antisocial dudes, because society has no place for us."

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Was I joking, The Chris? Not at all. *Nods* ^_^

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Yeah, I know. And the sad part, [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE], is that what we're talking about is no exaggeration.

2005-02-03 [Lost in Illusions]: as I said... nonconformity is not going against all that... it's doing your own thing because YOU want to.. 

2005-02-03 [drakkar]: the whole antisocial thing sounds like something a backwards version of dr suess would up is down and down is up right is left and left is right -,-......it sickens me

2005-02-03 [SeraphicDeviltry]: human race is a race that lives in society. we are social beings. none of the people who claim they are antisocial are really antisocial because they are socialising with you whilst saying they are antisocial.

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Yes, but the problem is that they WANT to be outcasts, and after they turn into walking zombies (no kidding- HalloweeN everyday), they start "regretting" it and telling us how bad we are for not talking to them. Well Excuse me, but I won't talk to a walking clotheshanger if he can only answer things like "Cool' , "Duh", or some other inarticulate combination of sounds.

2005-02-03 [SeraphicDeviltry]: those are the idiots wanting to grab attention

2005-02-03 [drakkar]: i saw a sticker once........"i went antisocial and my brain left me alone" its scary yet so true

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Once again, right on the head. To claim complete detachment from social desire is to claim to be totally apart from human nature. (Sorry that was delayed. Had to cut a pizza.)

2005-02-03 [Lost in Illusions]: I dont claim to be antisocial, though I will admit that, given the opportunity, Id much rather be alone. That's just me. Of course, on top of being alone, I want love

2005-02-03 [Lost in Illusions]: Alas... I have to leave you lovely people now... time to finish my task, and go home.. yay.

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Worse yet, you have the shirt that (I kid you not) I saw like half a little cliquish Goth circle wearing sometime due to pure coincidence... "You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you're all the same." Irony at its finest.

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Yes. I agree. But most "social beings" today can wear the same sticker. I mean... The true Goths I know are really a bit antisocial at times, but when you catch them in the mood, you can actually talk to them all day long over a beer or stroll in the park.  But alas, most young people today, both "goth" and non"goth" are frightening me with their simplicity and lack of vocabulary and intelligence. I mean come on! Sure, some can solve complex maths thingies, but can't sustain a 5-minute conversation. especially if it's not concerning some latest band or trend or ::shrugs:: girl/boy. Think about it- youth today are getting worse and worse.

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Ooh, done interning finally?

2005-02-03 [drakkar]: true

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Bye, Oblivion.  Oh and, [Avoral], when talking about shirts- a schoolmate of mine was wearing this two days ago: "I'm not a Bitch, I'm THE Bitch, and it's Miss bitch to you!"   I feel girls nowadays are just looking for a way to sign "Slut, Fuck Me" all over them.

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Yeah. I saw my high school turn from actual individuality (there was no such thing as "Goth" there... Actually, I was the closest thing to it, and I'm sure you all know my opinion on that) to a bunch of whiny little kids wearing black and acting like they've actually got something to complain about.

2005-02-03 [drakkar]: when kids who have nothing to complain about complain.....it annoys me

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Actually, [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE], it IS turning that way. Have you seen the way Disney's turning kids that way? They're doing it with all those childish little 'cliques.' But regardless, I point you to Hillary Duff and Lindsey Lohan. They knew it was going to happen when they casted them and turned them into the gods small children worship. And seeing their pop idols turn into little sex symbols shows the impressionable little things that that's what they're supposed to be. Combined with watching Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera having done the EXACT same thing just reinforces it.

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Well... My school has its individuals and its masses. But it has actually no Goths or even "goths" in it. Mostly Metalls, Punks and Hip-Hoppers. And a few "Decent kids". I'm the closest you can get to a goth there. And I don't even look like one most of the time. ::shrugs::     Could there be some sort of "Goth aura"? I mean... EVEN when I wear white, there's these people, who step up to me when we meet for the first time and ask me: "Are you Goth Metall?" It's strange.

2005-02-03 [drakkar]: which is why we need to go back to the baroque period

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Why do we need to go back to baroque? how's that relevant?

2005-02-03 [drakkar]: because with people playing stuff like baroque questions dividing people on their choice of music would not need be asked

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Eh, it's more of people seeing your style and philosophy and all that. Another thing is you have to look at even the members of the "masses" on an individual basis. A lot of them are really just more apt at withdrawing their real lives from school. I've drawn some of them out, and found beauty in their heads far greater than any of those freaking extroverted "individuals."

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Haha!!! True, true. Although a mass, it still consists of many individuals, only figured the same by being together. I too have scouted out many different people who are actually a pleasure to have as friends.

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Mmhmm. Hence the reason I defend the oh-so-evil "preps" at the expense of my own popularity. Frankly, I tend to like them better.

2005-02-03 [drakkar]: preps and goths are the two most dangerous socital wise cultures out there XD

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: I mean, hell. You know it's good when the head of the cheerleading squad is helping you assemble a faerie court.

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Neither exist, [drakkar]. The names are there for marketing purposes.

2005-02-03 [drakkar]: that is also true....there is no social ranking in society on indiffrences which give each class a name

2005-02-03 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I'm not sure. Too many claim to be part of one of those cultures for it to be nonexistent. I believe that the "worshippers" create the god, not the god his worshippers. I mean... for an example- sure, there's something that put the world together. The rest is names. But people fight for those names, turning them into reality.

2005-02-03 [drakkar]: exactly

2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Yeah, you hit it from a different angle, brought into light the tie I was trying to sever. Though, you're right; that I won't deny.

2005-02-08 [PorcelainMachete]: Why wouldn't goth exist?

2005-02-09 [Grey Eyes]: The thing I find interesting, is that every label does have some truth behind it, or else it wouldn't exist at all. Same with jokes...the only reason why jokes are funny is because there is reality in them.

2005-02-09 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Jokes are funny, because there's someone who laughs at them. If one laughs at what I'm writing now it too would be a joke, although I'm not joking. Oh and reality also plays a big role.

2005-02-09 [Avoral]: Well, more of it is just based around a few central adopted outlooks. The only reality of it is that some little kids happened to see the world in one particular way. From there, it eventually gets to becoming a mass media-fueled statement that has little more validity to one's being as a record label. "Goth" is the marketing term of the hour; more enlightened words for the same thing might include "nihilist," "malcontent," "existentialist," or whatever else might have you. Regardless, "Goth" is what the media coined it all as, and that's the name most of them have adopted. In fact, it seems to me that "Goth" exists even less than even this message might suggest, as any number of these

2005-02-09 [Avoral]: philosophical subsets can comprise what we know as a "Goth." Thus, it really is just a broader label, a constriction placed on what might otherwise be free thinking.

2005-02-09 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Hm... Yes, but by combining in itself what some people like to call "sub-categories" it turns into one big "category". And categories are real- thus, "Goth" is existent.

2005-02-09 [Avoral]: IF it exists, it's only because of the intrinsic need for security; to fathom the greater picture of the horizons thought can eventually achieve is in reality a terrifying thing, and coupled with mental sloth and served with a side of hubris, one might find it easier and much more immediately satisfying to believe s/he has already attained some pinnacle of untethered thought by donning the label like a medal. Damn, that was a long sentence.

2005-02-09 [Avoral]: Eh, it exists to corporate pencil-pushers, not in my head.

2005-02-09 [cuntstitches]: Nymphette, you need to message me and explain what goth is in depth or you will be removed. The end.

2005-02-09 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: My dear [Avoral]... You just threw 12 years of hard English studying with that sentence- there's words I never knew existed there. Untill I find my dictionary- go check out www.darknessoffear.com if it still exist and take a look at modern goth industry. Trust me- you have to look at EVERYTHING you can there. Some things are interesting, and some are beautiful works of art.

2005-02-10 [bullshit!:)]: assholes!!

2005-02-10 [PorcelainMachete]: Existentialism is a philosophy, like trancedentalism, not a marketing term.

2005-02-10 [Avoral]: Yeah, that's what I was saying, [PorcelainMachete]. "Goth" is the marketing term in question, and the philosophies comprising it are the only things with a shred of substance.

2005-02-10 [Grey Eyes]: ...wow...it's really stupid how people think they're going to terribly destroy my life because they randomly blurted "Assholes" in a wiki I participate in.

2005-02-10 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ...? What do you mean, Cookie?

2005-02-10 [drakkar]: yeah what did you do?

2005-02-10 [SeraphicDeviltry]: [bullshit!:)] just randomly said "assholes!!" claiming that they're an idiot. =S

2005-02-10 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Hm... I doubt they can actually claim something- they probably have no idea what the verb means.

2005-02-10 [drakkar]: XD

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: I quite agree with the [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE] ^^

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: and thats what makes it sad

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: Too bad for the stupid people....they'll be the first to go in the event of a Zombie Apocolypse XD

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: XD they would kill off the zombies due to starvation XD

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: But...but...what about the whore who gets her arm cut off? Or the nim-rod girl who risks her life to save a dog?

2005-02-11 [Falx]: I have a theory that there are in fact not 4 but 5 riders of the Apocolypse. The fifth rider is the less commonly known Rider of Ignorance or as I like to call him... the Rider of STUPID.

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: Very nicely said =D

2005-02-11 [Falx]: Thank you.

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: well that means one of them is already riding O.o....*holds up the classic wolfwood repent box* REPENT

2005-02-11 [Falx]: Though, I can't really take total credit. The 5 Riders Theory would have never come about had it not been for the FPA. One of its members claimed that he WAS the 5th rider of the Apocolypse. At which I proclaimed, "So... that makes him what... the Rider of Stupid?!"

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: *sighs* once again i must do research

2005-02-11 [Falx]: On what?

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: And I...must keep a better track of this convo =P

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: this whole rider subject...i become rather entranced in subjects of ancient and modern lore the are relivant to the modern world

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: I think the Anti-Christ is going to be the Pope....o.o

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: XD i wanna ride in the pope mobile and have all those people run along side the car XD man that looks fun

2005-02-11 [Falx]: Ah... very cool. THough, just for the record, the Book of Apocolypse only really mentions four. Though I think that if there was a fifth Ignorance would be it. And if we got rid of that one, then at least 3 of the other four would follow.

2005-02-11 [Falx]: Hmm. The Anti-Christ as the Pope... O.o That actually makes a lot of sense somehow.

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: Mwahahahaha! *wants a pope-hat*

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: naaah we cannot make of the pope cause he is big pimpin XD

2005-02-11 [Falx]: You can't have it! The Pope Hat is mine! Do you hear me?! MINE! *maniacal laughter*

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: *blinks* Oh yeah? Well I have magic...pope-ish powers o________.

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: i just want the cane and the popemobile

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: I know what I'm going to be for Halloween this year XD I'm going to dress up like a Pope-Pimp XD and I'll have Sister bitches *dies of laughter*

2005-02-11 [Falx]: You really have to wonder at JP II though... I mean, and no offense to his Holiness, he looks like he should have died quite some time ago. You have to wonder what drives him to keep going.

2005-02-11 [Falx]: I have to go. I need to get some sleep so I can go teach the young 'uns tomorrow. Night all!

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: Nighty-Night! ^^

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: bye-o...and he has great wrinkle reduction creme XD

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: I know o.o *can't wait for halloween* XD I'm going to have too much fun...

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: i imagine that would be pretty intresting XD

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: I'll have a Pope-hat with a big feather...and a cape/robe covered in rhinestones....and some bling that says "Pope" ...some jewelry...a can...and I'll have two slutty nuns clinging to my arms...and some young boy to molest XDDDDD

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: XD thats funny yet disturbing...but mostly funny

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: This is going to be so fun ^^ ...do you know if it's against the rules to have ridiculously huge photo's in your house?

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: O.o...no....and that seems a bit silly

2005-02-11 [Grey Eyes]: Well, I'm too lazy to shrink the photos x.x

2005-02-11 [drakkar]: still its your house you sould have the pictures whatever size

2005-02-11 [Avoral]: (Late on the conversation, but you know.) Actually, some say the Pope actually IS the Antichrist. One of the many people saying that is none other than [Priest Kel], the Chub.

2005-02-11 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: ::walks in:: woah. Religion. What's this all about?(if you pardon my lazyness to read through a ton of comments)

2005-02-11 [Falx]: Oh, basically, it's on my 5 Riders of the Apocolypse theory. And some stuff about the Pope's hat. I was just thinking [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE], that we might be able to use the Han Solo logic to prove that the Pope actually IS the anti-christ...

2005-02-12 [Grey Eyes]: I think it is plausable...I mean...her already has a milliondy worshipping him...it wouldn't hard for him to make a world-wide religion based off of himself o.o

2005-02-12 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Well... Technically... If God is everything (which is not the case, because he's everything GOOd in the world) he would also be the thing the Pope hates most. LMAO! Btw, dod you know that in Bulgaria a normal christian... what was the word... I'll have to use the word "priest" is actually called Pop? And The Pope is called Papa.

2005-02-12 [Grey Eyes]: Yeah....that's why I think he's the Anti-Christ. The anti-christ is...well...Anti god XD hence the name. And if his religion was based off himself it would make sense...because he wouldn't worship God...but himself...thus he'd secretly be a Satanist. o.o

2005-02-12 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: HAHAHAHA!!! Satanists don't worship themselves. Plus- not all antichrists are Satanists.

2005-02-12 [Grey Eyes]: ....actually that is what the Satanist religion is. The worship of self. o.o I know not all anti-christs are satanists...I'm just applying it to the Big-honcho anti-christ of the apocolypse.

2005-02-12 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: The Satanist religion is NOT that. I know a few Satanists. I even know a dude, who got married in a Satanist church.

2005-02-12 [Grey Eyes]: ...I also know Satanists...o.o who got accepted into the Satanist church....it appears we have conflicting things here.

2005-02-12 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: It depends. After all- I know only of the Bulgarian branch of the church. But the satanists I know have an odd claim, which I accept as truth- There's only one God; the rest is just names. LMAO! Anyways... Your comments clast whth the name "Satanist"- they are supposed to worshiup Satan.

2005-02-12 [Grey Eyes]: The thing is though. The bible says "Have not earthly Gods nor idolize ones self or another above my name" ...and worshipping yourself is recognizing yourself as an "false" idol and God, thus creating a Satanistic way of life, because You are being as Satan is, thus acceptng him into yourself. o.o

2005-02-12 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Hm... That means that Buddhists are all satanists- they're being thought that Everyone Is A God. Ergo- we're also Gods. ((Hm... And I AM part of Elftown Gods... Am I a satanist?))

2005-02-12 [Grey Eyes]: Bleh you're twisting what I'm saying x.x ...let's just settle this with we agree there are different levels of Satanism.

2005-02-12 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: OK! I accept the agreement. ::hands out hand:: Friends?

2005-02-12 [drakkar]: O.o...all this talk about religion makes me wonder what religion god is ? O.o

2005-02-13 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Well... He probably worships whatever created Him/Her/It/Whatever.

2005-02-13 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Like some people, who pray to "Whatever outthere is listening."

2005-02-13 [drakkar]: intresting enough.........but that brings up the question of what would have created him O.o

2005-02-14 [Grey Eyes]: *shakes hands with Jino...rather late* x.x Yuppers =D

2005-02-14 [drakkar]: XD

2005-02-14 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: I've asked myself the same question. And about what created the thing before. The problem is, that there wasn't a "before" as we know it back "then", because whatever created our world also created time. And what "time" "was" we can't know.

2005-02-14 [Avoral]: Well, if you're accepting the idea of a sentient creator of the cosmos, then this is where you get one of the most basic incomprehensible notions of all: The idea of transcendence of time, space, reality, all things at once. This would contribute to the idea of a being so powerful that concepts of the like are about as normal and sublime as our everyday thought processes. Believe in such a thing or not, an intellectual mind can't help but wonder what such omniscience would be like.

2005-02-14 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: Well... I've thought about lots of things. I've gotten lots of headakes by doing so. Last time my head hurt was when I asked this question. tell me what you think:"If the continuum is NOT a circle, what will be after all the possibilities have passed? Even the possibility of total nothing. And of everything. What will there be, even if the possibility, the action of "being" has also passed?" I caught a glimpse of something in my mind, and then my head started pounding.

2005-02-14 [drakkar]: this makes me wonder about the big bang theory if life was indeed caused by some gaint explosion what events triggred the explosion from nothingness

2005-02-14 [Jino "ChaoS" Silver_flamE]: And what will bring the world to an end, if such?